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jenna says...

my friend is a seller ng nu skin products and she invited me before sa seminar pero sinabi naman nya sa akin na sa nu skin yun. pero di ako interested kaya di ako pumunta. masasabi ko lang, sa mga experience nyo na ganyan, pangit nga yung ganun. lokohan yan para lang may mapaattend sila, kelangan pa nila magsinungaling.

Lei says...

Hay sa totoo lang I don’t know why naiisip nila manlinlang ng tao Naloko na rin ako but I still need to double check pa rin… Long story and medyo nakakahiya rin ishare hihi

kuting says...

@lei naku so victim ka rin pala ng false recruitment of some members. ingat ingat nalang. pero if ever gusto mo pa rin magjoin sa kanila, dun ka nalang magunder sa honest members nila.

Mickey says...

Hello there

maybe it was not the right time for you yet…you know why? what if Oprah Winfrey did call you the same way…what if Google called u the same way?

i was called the same way, but i have a different perspective.

Mickey

kuting says...

@Mickey well for me, it would have been a different scenario if it was Oprah or Google or anyone else. But this one is for business or work that is. I have been aware of the company, i even use some of their products before and i have friends who are members. My only point here, is the lies that those members do just to have someone attend their seminar. They don’t realize that they are stepping on the other members who are working hard and recruiting members honestly. They don’t realize that they giving others the wrong impression on their company. Honestly, if i wasn’t aware of the company and the product and i don’t have friends who are members there, first thing i would think of is that they are a scam. But then again, i know its a good company and i wish the best for the “honest” members and i hope the worst for those members who are big liars.

sincereboi says...

hi kuting. i like your perspective and you do sound fair in your judgment. it’s true that there are honest and lying ones. Sorry you had to experience the latter.

But to explain to you why some people do choose to “lie” or disclose information, it’s because MLM scams have been on the loose until now here in the Philippines so we are very careful in making our prospects have a negative prejudgment about us. I’m not justifying “lying” since I don’t lie myself, but I understand that some distributors are really having a hard time trying to let people be open-minded and not prejudge by associating us w/ scams.

But NuSkin is really a great opportunity to develop an asset that can last you a lifetime. It’s not really about the business but the quality of life you want to have in the future. People who really stuck it up w/ NuSkin are normal people who were in jobs, other business, but just decided to use the company as a tool to get the life that they want so they can enjoy the things they love doing. If you are that kind of person, i do suggest that you overlook that person who mislead you but think about the life that you want to have in the future. If you think it’s possible to achieve doing what you’re doing now, then you do not need a business such as NuSkin.

But for me, I really consider NuSkin as the greatest opportunity I’ve ever stumbled upon. I have firm, strong, and unshakable belief in it. But you will only completely understand me when you’re actually in it. It’s hard to explain but I do wish you can share the joy I have now. It’s too good to be true yet it is true.

by the way, you seem like a very nice person and it’s rare that I meet a fellow cat lover. I used to have cats but my mom has asthma so we now, we just got a dog who doesn’t shed hair.

we can keep in touch. my personal page is http://eauj.multiply.com

I’m a choreographer by profession.

kuting says...

@sincereboi
well im glad it works for you and that you’re loving it. i’m glad you get my point and that you understand this post is not to be nega about the company but only to warn others of liars. i do understand why they lie as a strategy but still, we its not a good start especially for business partnership. plus, its okay not to state the point directly, a lot of terms can be used but i just hope its not totally deceiving like what i experienced. the group of my friend who’s an active member there does not also tell you directly its nuskin etc, they use other terms that are convincing and not really deceiving thats why they were able to recruit lots of good people and were able to build good partnerships.

anyway, i saw your page. will just add you, syempre my multiply rin me. hehe

sincereboi says...

huh? what’s your multiply site? did u add me yet?

YOKS! says...

I was invted by a girl (kla ko nga classmate ko!) she said she’s from a multinational compny. di nya mnention yung name ng company so I was thinking, “What’s this company??” And she said that they conducted a survey about potential entreps in our school And I was the one they chose! Galing noh?? And she also said that that i can earn 20-30K a month!
WOW!
so I got interested!
And I she said that I should attend their seminar so I can understand the business thoroughly so she dictated the address:
15th Floor Octagon Building,
San Miguel Avenue,
Pasig City!
and she also said that I should wear sport casual attire, don’t be late, and be professional that I should not back up in the last minute
So I came just to prove my one word that I will come. and she also said then that there is no commitmnet yet!
Because I’m really interested, I came at the exact time she said. It’s 6:30 PM. I met the girl who called me and I think, she’s quite pretty and has innocent face. She look young because she’s just 20 or something. she ask me what are my interest, hobbies, etc. but I noticed that those questions were just to cover up because she’s always asking if i’m willing to try a business at my age. i’m 19 and still studying so I said to her that if it will not interfere my studies, then I will give a shot.
then, the seminar starts. I was amazed by their funny but smart speakers which I really admired because they are graduates of dentristry, Business management, etc. from different schools like UP, Ateneo, La Salle, etc. they’re really convincing and they said that they’re products or company is the major sponsor of Olympic teams like US,China, Japan!
I was amazed! they also mentioned that they have a rating of 5A1 that is higher than the rating of HSBC which has only 5A2 rating in terms of stability.
that was big!
lalo na they are US based!
di Ba??
so the seminar ended and the girl who invited me came to me again and Said “san ka dun? SA A, B, or C?” A is for “i’m willing to join your company” B stands for “I’m willing but I have some questions” And C is for “I’m not interested”
SO I said “B I think” She ask what are my questions and I ask her ” WHAT is 12600?
She said “It is explained lately right? ”
I said to my self “the speaker just said twelve-six” iniisip ko na hindi niya ipinaliwanag yun kung pera ba or code kasi walang nakalagay na Peso sign sa powerpoint presentation nila at hindi rin pinaliwanag ng speaker dahil sandali lang nya to binanggit!
So I became hesitant!
sinabi ko sa knaya na wala akong ganung pera!
She said “Sa parents mo sabihin mo”
sabi ko ” i’ll try”
and she ask me kung paano ko sasabihin at i-act ko daw sa harap niya na kunwari sya ung father ko!
But after that, she advised me instead na sabihin ko na sa parents ko ung totoo, dapat daw sabihin ko na may business venture ako with my friends and I need 12600 pesos. Ayun daw ung sinabi nya nung she was in my position before. That’s lying!
SO I became more suspicious. why should I fool my parents for this company?
and then after that, I just said, ” OK, I’ll do it”
after she led me seeing they’re products, she gave me an envelope with documents or I Should say articles about how to successful and not about they’re company profile!
tsaka I also noticed n kaya nya ibinigay yun is to make me come back again kasi kailangan ko ibalik sa kanya yun at kasama narin pati ung 12600. URGENT DI BA?? EXCITED SIYA? i’m still a student. wala ko mapagkukunan nun!
So right now, we supposed to meet again but I never came after conducting research about they’re company and I found out na hindi ako nag-iisa! Marame pala nagdududa sa kanila! at marame na complain against them.
MArame pala tayo!
I also found out na They are Using MLM systems (Multi Level MArketing) that has so many disadvantages at ang kawawa, those are in the bottom of recruitment!
Meaning, pag wala kang recruit, di ka kikita kasi dun lang sila talga most na kumikita, sa recruitment. so If you’re a member already, you are obliged to recruit and do same things as your recruiter para kumita ka!
so its a continuous recruiting para kumita kaya most of the companies adopting this MLM gone to shut down!
kawawa ung mga Huli!
Diba?
So I hope na nakatulong ako sa mga nakababasa nito and I also hope na You should think twice pag may offer na ganyan na talagang nakakamangha!
REMEMBER: THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH!!!
you should work hard to earn more!
Don’t be a victim!
mahirap ang buhay ngayoN!
always search for infos!
SA google ok na DIBA??
I ? GOOGLE! U SAVED ME!
BE WISE!
Wag Paloko!
Isumbong nyo kay BONGGANG BONGGANG BONGBONG!
Take Care sa lAhAT!

sincereboi says...

Hi Yoks. i’m from the company that you went to. The reason why you don’t tell ur parents details is because they won’t understand since you know better now. the P12,600 is the amount of products you get that makes you eligible to become partnered w/ the company. that’s a big deal because everything else i provided for.

Anyway, maybe it’s not a good time for you yet or you’re not really willing to do it. But again, it is not only legal but a stable, billion dollar company. you should research much credible sources like NYSE.com or Dun & bradstreet. you may not know what you’re really missing.

MLM in general is not illegal nor bad. it is a way of marketing products by person to person. there are wrong MLMs though w/c most people are more familiar w/.

Sincerely.

YOKZ says...

to sincereboi:
I didn’t say that MLM is illegal!!
I just want to say that they should be honest from the very start!
Gusto ng mga tao ngayon is direct to the point!
Don’t lie because business involves trust and loyalty!
alam ko na ang pharmanex and nu skin is a very huge company.
no doubt about that.
pero their strategy here in the philippines is very tricky and suspicious. sana disclose nila ung mga relevant infos about the company itself di ba? If they really want to help people, then be honest sa una pa lng kung paano gawin ung business, ung cash flows at siyempre it should be clear para walang duda. mahirap maglabas basta basta pera ngayon. If they want to recruit members dapat ung mga young professionals ung kunin nila and not the students kasi they are still dependent. for sure may makukuha sila. I’m not against the company but i’m against the people who uses the company and strategy to take advantage from the others. that’s unfair! Maganda ang products nyo so you should be confident na ipakilala to sa public at sabihin nyo agad ung real intention nyo sa mga irerecruit nyo! tnx sa pag-intindi! yun lng po!

anonymous says...

from: http://www.newsflash.org/2004/02/ht/ht008058.htm

Nu Scam: And speaking of scams, Congress and the Department of Trade and Industry should put a stop to multi-level marketing and pyramiding scams.

One ploy involves teenage students, a number of them from the University of the Philippines in Diliman, Quezon City.

Unless you want your kids to have “skin product sales agent” in their resumé, better warn them about how Nu Skin Enterprises has found a nifty way to sell its products and even recruit sales agents in this country. There must be a child labor law somewhere that’s being broken, and if there isn’t, there ought to be one.

One UP student got a call from a guy named Celso Cambri, who seemed to know a lot about her personal background and academic achievements. That alone should have raised alarm bells, but instead the girl was impressed. Sad to say, my alma mater teaches academic excellence but not street smarts.

The student was told that she was one of a lucky few who had been selected for a leadership training program complete with a stipend sponsored by “NSE Inc.”

Other UP students had also shown interest. The girl ended up listening for hours about what increasingly sounded to her like a seminar on buy-and-sell (she wasn’t a complete naïf), but the “NSE Inc.” folks kept insisting it was a purely academic program.

The leadership program required a reservation fee of P12,600. The girl paid up and was made to sign a contract. When she asked for more time to read the fine print, she was told to skip several parts that did not concern her and to sign ASAP.

She was told that in addition to the P12,600, and before she could qualify for a stipend, she had to submit 300 names to NSE, which was probably how they latched on to her in the first place. Her high school yearbook bore even her contact numbers.

Cambri’s boss Ariel Luther Presbitero gave the student a pack containing brochures as well as Nu Skin products, which he reportedly started opening ostensibly so she could smell the stuff that she had never heard of and never dreamed of buying.

That’s when it dawned on the student that she had been lured into a marketing scheme for Nu Skin Enterprises – NSE. Later, when she tried getting a refund and returning the products, she was told that since the stuff had already been opened, the policy was no return, no exchange.

I guess there’s one born every minute, and the easiest to con are impressionable teenagers. And I guess there are students who would work their butts off even in the middle of exam season to come up with 300 names for NSE to contact and dump its products.

But the kids should at least be told exactly what they’re getting themselves into. The questions should be simple and straightforward: Do you want to be a sales agent for Nu Skin? Do you want to buy Nu Skin products?

I don’t know where deception fits into a leadership program, but then this is the Philippines.

At least you’ve been warned: any company that has to employ deception to get people to buy – and sell – its products has to be a lemon. How can you trust its skin products? You’ll just end up with cooties.

__________________

misrepresentation…
upfront deception and lies…
feel good “seminars”…

no matter how legit the products are, by these “business” practices, i’d rather go with slow and sure income instead of “high income potential” that uses deception and unethical practices… (well for the top 2%, 98% of members have average incomes of less than $38, this is in the US) [ http://www.ncahf.org/articles/j-n/mlm.html ]

besides, why associate myself with a company already “branded” by people as scam and deceptive?

and don’t be proud of the company being in the NYSE and audited by a prestigious accounting firm… ever heard of Enron?

and don’t be proud of it sponsoring the olympics, harvard, discovery, with research and stuff… heck with billions of dollars, a company can do so much, even paying people to have a (biased) “research” of their products…

and by the way, antioxidants have not yet been “proven” to really have significant effects in the body… if they have, the multi-billion dollar pharma companies (phyzer, etc.) will also manufacture them and profit from them…

and why are the products not present in the most credible medical journals of the world?

the list goes on…

sincereboi says...

to YOKZ:

I understand. But it really is hard to explain things over the phone. The reason why you come over is to see the details first hand, and you have to be w/ an open mind.

by the way, just to correct you, it is not true that “kawawa ang nasa baba”. Nu Skin is a virtual franchising business. That means, whoever is the most hardworking is the most productive. I have business partners who earn more than their mentor simply because they are more hardworking. And in Nu Skin, you don’t need to recruit just to earn money. The profit comes from product movement. I have a partner who hardly recruits but moves product by the volumes. Business is about moving products. The reason why you recruit is for leverage. It’s hard to move millions of dollars worth of products by yourself so you get partners to move it w/ you, and in turn, the company pays you commission from its pocket, not from your partner’s.

it’s pretty much like franchising except that you don’t pay a big amount of capital, neither rent, nor overhead, etc.

Like what Roberk Kiyosaki says, Network Marketing is the greatest opportunity for a layman to become wealthy.

By the way, network marketing is being practiced by proctor and gamble, coca cola palmolive, at&t, citibank, etc. It’s just that the common person doesn’t understand the power of it yet.. hopefully not for long.

Be in business if you want to become successful. But if you don’t want to be succesfful, it’s ok.

sincereboi says...

to anonymous:

Hi, I am from pharmanex. i do agree w/ the business practices, although it’s not like that w/ everyone. just like everywhere. there are good and bad people. you just have to be wise to decide for yourself to discern and choose.

By the way, you can’t discredit the company’s prestige, including it’s accomplishments and products. It is included in the highest of Medical Journals which is the Physician’s Desk Reference. send me your email and I can send you a copy of it.

The company is rock solid. Enron inevitably had to fall-down due to its corrupt leaders and their greed. The owners of NSE are not distributors. so if there’s anyone to blame, it shouldn’t be the company but “some” of the distributors who do questionable business practices.

With anything, it’s always the people who are responsible.

I hope you understand that.

kat says...

I just got a call from a woman about this Pharmanex. I guess out of curiosity, I started to check its credibility. I am glad I found this entry, and it enlightened me.

frodo says...

To Kat:
Many people believed something they don’t see yet..i pity them..
Remember: “Successful people does what unsuccesful doesn’t!”

With regards to the interview of MULTI-BILLION TYCOON Donald Trump:
….He was asked:
Host: What if you lose all your BILLIONS today? What would you do?
Donald Trump: “I’ll do network marketing!”
…after he said that, the audience BOOOOed him, thinking he was crazy..
then Donald said: “That’s why you’re there, and I’m here”

…that explains why, the poor gets poorer and the rich gets richer..many of whom did not understand yet.

Tell me why, the richest man today, Warren Buffet bought TWO Network Marketing company?

You can always believe the comments and testimonies here about the NUSKIN/PHARMANEX company..but you can never go wrong in 48 countries right now, 11 years in the Philippines and 25 years across the Globe..DSAP.com, NYSE.com, google search GALVANIC SPA BRAD PITT..

It’s still up to your decision..

To sincereboi:
I agree with you entirely!!

To Kuting:
You have a point! As for me, I really don’t say that it’s work bacause that would be a false inviting..but i’d rather say that it is oppurtunity meeting because it trully is..
God Bless with your JOB.

an says...

@sincereboi
hello, im gald to read your entry, i agree with what you said that its not the company who should be discredit of but the person you are dealing with. Im not a distributor of NSE but i believe on their products and credibility. Cguro nga may mga pinoy distributors lng tlga na misrepresent your company. I personally and intelectually investigate the company porfile of nuskin and it was very impressive. Im defenitely considering it.

kuting says...

yup…. im not against the company really. like i said, its a good one and give good opportunities to those interested. just be careful dealing with liars. if you’re gonna get into the company, make sure you’re in a good group of people. that’ll help you more to be successful. beware of the bad ones and dont be like them.

sincereboi says...

hey guys. there’s already a recession happening in the US and I have heard reports that people there are flocking to go for NuSkin and other direct selling companies since it’s not an employment company. and most of them are reaping the benefits.

I just talked w/ a friend of mine from GMA and the Philippines will be experiencing recession next year. there will be a lot of job cutting. direct-selling/home-based businesses are the way to go now for financial and time freedom. if you wanna argue w/ me, ask obama. he’s anti-outsourcing. there’s too many unemployment claims in the US that he wishes to provide jobs for his own people, not off shore.

believe me, guys. if you don’t, it’s just like God’s prediction of the perfect storm and only Noah and his family believed and in turn were saved.

A life of wealth is POSSIBLE!!!

God bless you all.

NO_NU_SKIN says...

sincereboi, nasa US ako. Mali ang balita mo that people are FLOCKING to NU SKIN and other direct selling firms. Pag nilabas iyang balitang iyan sa NEWSWEEK, or CNN, and other reputable news outlet, maniniwala pa ako. Ang mga kapwa natin Pinoy na karamihan ay nasa Healthcare industry, ay maganda ang katayuan, recession-proof ang kanilang mga trabaho. Ang pagpapaganda (cosmetics or skin care) ay actually taking a backseat right now. Why would anyone want to use their remaining money to pay for overpriced skin products? Hindi priority na gumastos ng malaki para gumanda ang balat, kung nagugutom naman ang tiyan, at kailangan ng pambili ng pagpapainit sa loob ng bahay (heating). When the people in the US wants skin care, WE can buy BETTER products from drugstores, like RITE-AID (na pwede pa to return, kung ayaw mo) , or go to SEPHORA (pwede pang humingi ng libreng sample), or to the department stores. Kung acne problem, 2% salicylic acid ang hanapin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salicylic_acid
Maghanap rin ng produkto na may TRETINOIN, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tretinoin.

A life free OF DECEPTION is possible !

God bless you all who refuse to deceive other people.

Spread the word. Prevent another human being from falling into their FALSE CLAIMS and MISREPRESENTATIONS of Nu Skin people/agents/distributors.

NO_NU_SKIN says...

FRODO, you drank the KOOL-AID. Kung tutoong malalaki ang kita ng mga distributors at agents ng NU SKIN, e bakit sila nademanda? Ang malalaki ang kita, iyong nasa itaas ng PYRAMID. The uplines! Everyone wants to RECRUIT DOWNLINES, kasi ganoon sila kikita. Kaya nga PYRAMID SCHEME ang Nu Skin. Sa balitang bumili ng network marketing companies si Warren Buffet, nasaan ang link sa balitang iyan? O chismis lang iyan? Kung tutoong NU SKIN at ang marketing GIMIKS nila ang future, e di sana MISMONG si OBAMA na ang naglagay nito sa “Ways to solve financial crisis in the US”. I google searched: “warren buffet, network marketing company”, at eto ang number one sa search : http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/07/06/texas-attorney-general-sues-network-marketing-company-mannatech/ Texas Attorney General sues network marketing company Mannatech. Dapat mademanda rin ang NU SKIN sa Pilipinas. To protect consumers.

NO_NU_SKIN says...

sincereboi, says he is from PHARMANEX. Sincereboi, you lose credibility already there. It is about self-promotion for you.

“you can’t discredit the company’s prestige, including it’s accomplishments and products. It is included in the highest of Medical Journals which is the Physician’s Desk Reference. send me your email and I can send you a copy of it.”

LOL… Afraid to post it here in public? Because it will be scrutizined? Why? Because time and again, NU SKIN and PHARMANEX had been sued and fined, for false claims and misrepresentations?

What PRESTIGE are you talking about on Pharmanex or Nu Skin? Sinong niloloko nyo sa Pilipinas? Hindi na kasi kayo makaloko dito sa US, ano? Kaya you turn to the Filipinos in the Philippines? You are nothing but a PYRAMID SCHEME.

You and your company should be sued in the Philippines, like what was done in the US to NU Skin and Pharmanex. Idemanda nyo ang Nu Skin, para mabawi nyo ang inyong investments based on their false claims and mispresentations.

No_Nu_Skin says...

http://www.mlm-thetruth.com/NuSkin-VictimsLetters.htm

maginoo pero bastos says...

ung mga miyembro nyan mga manloloko lalo na ung julius aldaba at lory santos ba un. mansu sul2 pa mag benta ng gadgets pra mkabuo ng 12,600 kung myaman kyo pautangin nyo muna kmi pra mkasali anyway 200k to millions ang pera na pina uusapan nyo pag kumita na kmi tyka nmin kyo babayran ng 12,6001

sandy says...

For those who pretend to know Warren Buffet– he bought Pampered Chef, about 4 or 5 years ago. Reports says that he has 2 others.

hope says...

to NO_NU_SKIN

Happy new year! Kabayan, masyadoi ka atng gigil na gigil sa NU SKIN…frustrated or inis because others were able to achieve their dreams and goals thru this company? alin dun?

Link: http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/nus.html

Joel says...

“Personally, i have tried some of their products before and i think they’re pretty much okay except that the price is kinda high.”

– I think you are not against the product but the price or the way you where invited (which is the fault of that one who invited you). You came there with a “biased” thinking about multilevel marketing (multilevel distribution) because of your previous experience with your father/uncle. I don’t think u’ve looked deeply in the facts presented to you – i.e. The foundations NU Skin build for children and at the same time being part of New York Stocks Exchange – which marks the stability of the company…

With 12,600 you’ll get tremendous training and support (if ever may prospect client ka na, your sponsor will present the product for you to your said prospect client and if they liked it – you’ll get the profit not your sponsor or the one presented the product as part of support you get from the company … and what do you do? You just get trained, use the product until you yourself can attest of the credibility of the product – yun naman un eh, if you believe your product is credible and proved it to yourself – i don think the marketing would be hard. Just a side note, u don’t earn just by selling products – hirap kasi sa ating mga pinoy ma pride, nag sinabing “nag bebenta” feeling na natin palengkero/palenkera laging “sosyal” image ang nasa isip wala naman pera. I suggest you open your mind, multilevel marketing is there since 200 years- and for it to exist that long – it means it’s a solid rock foundation – marami ng naparayaman NU Skin – the reason? They tested the product and it worked – get support on how to sell the product properly and support on how be a LEADER as well – and wallah! Before you knew it – your hard work pays.

I just want to remind you, even in your everyday life you are “selling” – if not yourself, your skill, your company – so that you’ll earn something. So selling a product that you know works isn’t different from you doing your job well to sell your skill to your boss – but the big diff is at the end of the day – you dont get bonus – worst thing is .. u can lose your job anytime! NU Skin – will you lose your job anytime? Yes ofcourse it’s possible but that is if you quit sa simula pa lang, but by the time u get 5-10 regular clients to buy products from you (NU SKin delivers the products for you by the way) – sitting pretty ka na lng while u earn from them + company pay you another % for getting regular clients – do the same thing lang find another client or maybe at this point your a leader na who has potential to find another leader. Leverage is the secret of the millionaires and that’s what multilevel distribution/marketing is all about – no offense but i think you lack understanding about the business nature. If you can get Forbes magazine issue 2008, page 29-30 and read about NU SKin.

Two man standing in the jail cell – the other one saw the mud, the other one saw the stars.

Warren Buffett says...

I’m very interested in this business. I have also invested in a different company many moons ago. They’re a really big company in the US, not unlike the Nu Skin company you guys talk about. I’m sure they won’t get me or any of the other members into trouble. By the way, the multi-billion dollar company’s name is Madoff.

sincereboi says...

to No_Nu_Skin,

http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-22-2009/0004959187&EDATE=

i don’t know why you sound so bitter and nothing positive seems to come out of you. if you care about people, can you think of a better option when this ( http://edition.cnn.com/2009/BUSINESS/01/26/job.cuts/index.html ) is already happening?

spo4 majurac says...

ok isa lng ang masasabi ko my spy n kmi jan sa loob ng compny nila once n mpatunayan nmin n my ginagawa clang anumlya jan sa compny kmi n mismo ang mg papasarado nyan.. sa ngaun ok nmn dw sa bussiness …

boy palaboy says...

lol at spo4 majurac.

dm says...

hi i’m confused i’m really interested to be involved with this pharmanex. i’m a student and my financial status is not that well.
i think engaging in this business will help me.
but is it really a scam or what?
i mean its hard for me to come up with 12600, and if ever i don’t want it to go to waste.

mic says...

Hi,
I agree with sincereboi. Also I am proud of saying that I am too is from Pharmanex. Researching for the company is actually a good idea. I would only like to suggest that you reasearch based on facts and not on opinions.

I never lie to people on inviting for the oppurtunity. I always tell it is a business project but some of them still thought it was a job or employment when they meet up with me. Sometimes people see what they want to see eventhough other things are presented to them.

@NO_NU_SKIN
kababayan, parang sobrang init mo ata jan. isn’t it philippines is a tropical country, so dapat mas mainit dito. try to be cool.dont know whats your point, you research all the negative but havent seen the positive. be objective.
Try to research on big companies, look at their records, is there a big company na hindi nademanda?We all know US, actually sobra ang demandahan jan especially kung ang dinedemanda is mapera.

Here in the Philippines, like in the 48 countries where NuSkin is present, we are doing our best to provide good oppurtunities, products and services to people.How about you? What have you done lately? Have you contributed to the people around you?

@maginoo pero bastos
There is no free lunch in life.
Nothing of great achievments in this world comes easy.

Remember guys,
Successful people do what unsuccessful people dont like to do.

mic says...

@dm
If you are interested in doing the business, go back to the person who showed you the oppurtunity. I guarantee you that he will help you on this.Good luck. God bless!

JR says...

galing ako sa seminar kanina..ok nman ung presentation, i was so amazed tlaga.. 2 ung speaker; ung isa is from NY daw na nagppractice ng medical field nya d2, tapos ung isa, isang chinese businessman daw named Paul.. so ayun convincing nman ung presentation.. tapos after nun, kinausap ulit ako ng agent ko dun.. sabi nya senior executive daw xa dun… meaning kumikita na daw xa ng more than 100K monthly!!!… tlagang napa OMG ako sa loob2 ko.. hehehe un nga lang, hindi ako naconvince sa agent ko kse kung tlgang kumikita xa ng 100K++ monthly, edi sana well groomed and branded ung attire nya.. hahhaha ang pangit kaya ng sout nya parang nabili lang sa ukay2.. hehehe tapos muka pa cyang sabog.. hehehe..tapos ung teeth nya pa ang pangit! di pantay2.. kung kumikita xa ng ganun kalaki dapat he manage to have braces na or better yet invisilign.. hehehe.. at eto pa.. kung ganun kalaki ung kinikita nya, edi sana nilibre nya ako ng dinner sa labas.. gutom na gutom na kaya ako nun.. wala man lang pinakain sa akin… what is P100 kung 100K nman ang pera nya diba? heheh natawa pa ako nung naghiwalay na kme kanina.. kung tlga malaki kita nya, sana may car na xa.. eh nag jeep lang xa pauwi eh.. hahahha…

well im not against the company..

akin lang, wag silang manloko ng tao about the money, e wala ngang pinakita na payslip eh.. tsk tsk tsk..

stranger says...

Every seminar is the same,

But what lies behind is what had u learn from it.

Business Management student says...

ThE onLy thiNg I nOticEd with thiS type of buSiness is thEir apprOach. As an individuaL, yOu reaLLy need to be opEn-minded, cOmpLaining dOes nOt heLp. Think!

jan says...

@sincereboi
xfx dancer eauj is in pharmanex pala! haha anyway nainvite ako im interested but im a highschool student na sumasayaw rin so mahirap ang sched. takot ako masayang. ano po HONEST opinion mo about this? how long bago nabawi mo yung 12600?

Dont Trust anybody says...

wag kayong papaloko sa mga ganyan. these mofo companies will just take advantage of you and your hard earned money will be gone like the wind hahaha. pagisipan muna mabuti bago magpakawala ng pera. ayt?

observer says...

honestly, most of these posts are obviously not well-thought of. you don’t prove your earnings thru the clothes you wear. if you manage to personally know very successful people, they’re just simple. also, you don’t need to show payslips to prove the earnings, 3rd-party common sense facts are enough i believe. natatawa talaga ako dito.

SPO4 Bantay Scam says...

Hi there. Though this blog post is almost a year old, this is still valuable info especially to the unsuspecting who’d fall prey into these con schemes. Ang nakakabuwisit pa, ang Pilipino niloloko ang kapwa Pilipino. Saan pa kayo? As the saying goes, there’s a sucker born every minute! Once again thanks for informing the public.

I have had some of these NSE scammers placed under surveillance by my team.

Riddick says...

There’s only one thing I can say about this. If you were impressed with the presentation and what the business can offer you…why not try it? P12,600 is not much if you can get more than that by WORKING HARD of course. I suggest to join Nu Skin if you have the extra cash. If you don’t then why join? It’s not like the company forces you to join them right? Personally I would join because I don’t want to look back someday and have regrets. P12,600 is nothing compared to a life of regret if you could’ve made more than what you’ve put up in the first place. If you can buy an extra mobile phone for your smart sim or globe sim for P12,600 (or maybe even more)…why not invest it on something that would make something in return. Not textmates…but the money you actually captialized on…and much more. Thank you!

ihatenuskin says...

@Riddick: You know, if you have an extra P12600 you must have been a graduate from a reputable school. Now, why would I waste my degree selling something that’s not even a necessity? I would I waste my time in something that will not even give me a stable income?

“It’s not like the company forces you to join them right?” — sorry to pop your bubble, but your wrong there, mate! If they are not forcing you to join their company, how come when one decides to leave, all the agents will gang up on you to stop you from leaving?? And if they fail in trying to discourage you from leaving the company, they will give you a hard time in refunding your money from your unsold kits? Is this how their agents are trained? My friend was being harassed for days when she told the company she’s quitting. I helped her find a lawyer just to scare their asses off and give her money back.

kill the scam says...

No matter how you put it, IT IS A F@#$K@#$ SCAM.

I was called by a LEO CAMBRONERO offering opportunities for a part time job. He said that they are looking for CPA’s with experience in the BPO industry. That’s how he lures people into attending their lame presentations where they gang up on you as “ihatenuskin” said. So watch out for that name, LEO CAMBRONERO. He’s nothing short of a criminal.

cybin says...

Read this: http://www.mlm-thetruth.com/30typicalMLMmisrepresentations.htm

angelica_171439 says...

naimbitahan na ako dun sa nu skin seminar pero sa totoo lang hindi talaga nila sinasabi kung anu ba talaga ang company napupuntahan ko kala ko sa teleperformance ako pupunta eh. tapos ok naman yung presentation pero nagsinungaling na sila sa umpisa pa lang, then sabi sakin ng girl na nakausap ko 5 slots na lang daw ang available eh tapos nabalitaan ko nagrerecruit pa sila 2 kasinungalingan na… hindi niya rin masagot ang mga tanung ko habang idemo niya sakin yung products sabi ko weird naman nito bakit ganun… kinuhaan pa ko ng 10 contact numbers… at masyado silang nagmamadali dun sa pera kamusta naman di ba kung opportunity yun bakit parang sa halip na makatulong gipitan pa yata ito… at kung totoo na mababawi yung pera bakit hindi ka muna pagtrabahuhin tapos pag meron na eh di ibawas yung 12,600 dun sa sweldo di ba…. hay iba iba tayo ng opinions pero sana sabihin agad nila muntik pa kong mapahiya kung sa teleperformance pa ko pumunta dahil yun yung sabi sakin yun pala nu skin ayaw niyang sabihin yung name talaga ng company….mahirap pumasok sa business pag sales hay kayo na lang ang manghusga….

angelica_171439 says...

manghusga i mean mamili kung sasali ba kayo dun or hindi,… sa totoo lang maganda yung project very promising but the catch is too much lalo na sa mga wala pang hanap buhay or mahihirap lang pwede naman gawan ng paraan ang 12,600 pero mas maganda siguro kung siguradong maiibabalik yung pera mo di ba… hindi naman mali ang pakinggan ang opinion ng iba pero wag lang maging bias open minded lang dapat at respect others na lang…

Dee says...

My bf’s friend is from NuSKIN and she tried to invite me. I told her Im not interested in any networking or MLM. I hope when people say they’re not interested, they’d stop. However, she didnt stop. Akala ko cya lang ang ganun cause thats her personality pero she is the 5th person who invited me and they are all the same. Makulit!

Anyways, that was my experience. I dont have anything against NUKSIN. However, there is a practice I dont really like.

SINISIRAAN NILA ANG IBANG PRODUCTS. All those 5 girls asked what I am using. I told them DOVE, CLINIQUE and NEUTROGENA…after nun sunod sunod na un paninira nila. This really turned me off big time.

Leo says...

hi dee. leonard here. i am doing nu skin and i am a straight, married guy. yung sa sinabi mo -it is technically not paninira if they can prove it. i have proven the difference between the soaps of Dove and Neutrogena and our Body Bar using a pH pencil – totoo yun. at yung tungkol sa claims of this and that cleanser – Betadine ang gawin ninyong referee – all cleansers (even that by Body Shop) vs. the 180 Face Wash.

i understand if you think na paninira yun kasi yun ang gamit mo, pero please understand that you don’t own those companies either. consumer ka rin lang, so what my business partners there were doing was telling you the BLUNT TRUTH about the ingredients that other companies use.

Riddick says...

Hey ihatenuskin, good day to you. There’s a big difference between forcing you to join the company and stopping you to leave the company. Just something that I noticed last time you posted. Anyway…I feel sorry about what happened to your friend. I don’t know if what you claim is true since I’m not from Nu Skin and I don’t need extra money. Just a word of advice. I don’t believe that we make wrong decisions in life because it’s illogical to pick a decision that would be for our disadvantage. We only make the right decision or the smart decision. Be sure to pick carefully. I wish happiness and luck to all the people here. God bless you and may the gods that you worship bless you as well. Have a nice day.

Dee says...

@Leo. Well, I get your point but I’m not sure you get mine and besides that is my opinion. I hope you respect that. Yes I am a consumer too and I know that there will always be a better product over another and each user is entitled to their own taste and opinions. Sana alam din yan ng 5 NU SKIN girls who talked to me. Again, hindi ko lalahatin cause I know a person who works there who isnt like that naman. Besides, yan ang opening nila agad once na humindi ka sumali. LOL! Nakakaturn off talaga.

BOTTOM LINE: I dont believe that you need to bad mouth other products or people for that matter just to get users to switch or buy your products.

ayen says...

@dee. You know what i am into this business NU SKIN. I respect your opinion anyways its still your decision to decide what you want to choose and to use. But sometime we can’t decide right then if we see the result right away the difference if its true or not. But still its up to your choice, maybe the ladies that you’d mentioned are opened and showed something for an option. And why we’re comparing products? of course we want to show up that we’re really different because all the products are organic and well research ingredients and its not new in the market comparing some other products.

smart shot says...

bottomline, look where you are right now..are you successful in what you do? If not don;t talk about these stuff.

kukay says...

ang daming troll from nu scam!!!kakapal niyo! tumigil na kayo.

kukay says...

hey smart shot…okay, show us your pay check! A$$hole!

kukay says...

http://www.newsflash.org/2004/02/ht/ht008058.htm

aj says...

hi.
i just saw this blog last night. i’m aj and i’m from nu skin and pharmanex company. i don’t recruit, i sell/introduce products to some people. in 3 months doing the business i became executive. i earn far bigger than what a regular distributor could earn. i have doctor partners. 25 doctor partners i must say. prescribing our products to patients and so far i recieve good feedback about it.
ok here’s the thing..hindi lahat ng nasa nu skin ganun mag “recruit/invite”. i don’t do calls to invite, i call to set an appointment. i go to clinics, spas, salons.
regarding 12,600, i did not pay that package, i bought a product worth 21,500. mas malaki db? it’s because mu husb and liked it. i did the business, and i earned a month after.. what i mean is, nasa hard work lang yan..bakit ako magiging skeptic sa 12,600 eh nakakabili nga ako ng laptop and cellphone mas mahal pa. wala pang business na kasama.. my first commission inabot ng 18k. considering 3 weeks kong ginawa yung usiness ng tyagaan..
if you are not interested in the business, wag idamay the company
if you experience other members’ inviting strategies…hindi lahat ganun.. i even bought my business car in 3 months doing the biz.. dahil nag tyaga ako.
and isa pa po.. may mga options, hindi lang yung 12,600. try nyo magtanong..:)
ako housewife lang but now i’m proud of myself coz i fear selling more than death till i realized i’m good at it naman pala..imagine i have doctors in my team?!
natutunan ko yan sa trainings, seminars, cd’s and books na pinrovide ng mentor ko. and now i know i’m one of those successful people in nu skin.
kung wala kang diskarte sa buhay, walang mangyayari sa yo. kung ayaw mo ng risk, nasa yo yan..
WAG LANG PO SANANG I CONDEMED YUNG COMPANY. KASI MAS MADAMING NAGSUCCEED KESA HINDI.:)

Ana_Romania_EUROPE says...

Thank you for publishing this comments.
I have been SCAMED by NU SKIN in ROMANIA, EUROPE ,
The amount is 1000 USD ($$$$) .
Sorry I didn’t understand all comments is your language, can you give me One idea how can I recover MY MONEY BACK?
TKS all your readers .Thy cheat all over the world nice people, they are opening new markets in Asia promising to nice decent people To whitening they SKIN _ FALSE PROMISES .. dont pay for the NU SKIN products.

berryblitz says...

Ngayon ko lang nakita itong post mo ah! Ishare ko nga kahit 2 years ago na ito

sami biton says...

Hey all,

To get a discount on Nu skin products just become a Nu Skin distributor, and you can purchase all the Nu Skin products at wholesale, saving 30%.

Go to nuskin’s website. Choose country. Click “sign up” then “individual” and in the sponsor distributor Id write: IL1148187 – Fill in the form and save up to 30% on all the products.

Usually there’s a $25 fee to become a distributor , but if you make a purchase it’s free – http://www.nuskin.com

If you just want to purchase NuSkin wonderful products and not to become a distributor, just use this ID number – IL1148187 – to order.

Enjoy and have a young life,

Doron

COOLGEE says...

HI THERE.. HMMM, SOUNDS LIKE IT’S A HEATED ARGUMENT…
WELL, I THINK THERE ARE DIFFERENT KINDS OF PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD AND THE PERSON WHO INVITED YOU WAS JUST ONE OF THEM, BUT THERE ARE OTHER MORE. I GUESS, THE PROBLEM WAS NOT THE COMPANY BUT HOW YOU WERE INVITED… YOU SEE, WE HAVE A VERY POOR MARKETING STRATEGY IN THE PHILIPPINES…THE PRODUCT IS SO GOOD, IT’S REAL SCIENCE, BECAUSE THE RESULT IS VERY EVIDENT. THE PRODUCTS MAYBE A BIT EXPENSIVE BECAUSE, THEY HAVE INVESTED IN RESEARCH AND QUALITY MATERIALS WITH EXCELLENT SCIENTIST WORKING WITH THE PRODUCTS. IF YOU JUST HAVE MORE MONEY, WON’T YOU SPEND ON QUALITY PRODUCTS? I’M SAD HOW YOU WERE INVITED. YOUR PAST EXPERIENCES HAVE COLORED HOW YOU’RE SEEING THINGS. THE AIM OF NETWORK MARKETING IS FOR PEOPLE TO HELP OTHERS AND HELP THEMSELVES… IT’S TO BUILD ONE ANOTHER. THE PROBLEMS COMES WHEN SOMEONE THINKS ” I’M HIS DOWLINE, HE WILL EARN FROM ME”, RATHER THAN, ” HOW COULD I HELP MYSELF WHILE HELPING OTHERS ALSO”. PHILIPPINES IS THE HARDEST MARKET? WHY? BECAUSE SOME HAVE ABUSED WHILE OTHERS BAD-MOUTH, BOTH DESTROYING A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY…NU SKIN PRODUCTS ARE GREAT, TESTED AND PROVEN!!! I WOULD LIKE ALSO TO ADDRESS TO THE PERSON WHO INVITED YOU TO GET MORE TRAINING, AND SOMEHOW I PITTY HIM COZ IT SEEMED LIKE HE DOESN’T FULLY UNDERSTAND HIS PURPOSE, BUSINESS IS FIRST NOT ABOUT MONEY BUT ADDING VALUE TO OTHERS… YOU WERE TRICKED MAYBE BECAUSE HE’S DESPERATE, OR SIMPLY NOT THINKING. BUT DON’T WORRY, I BELIEVE MISTAKES CAN ALSO BE OUR GREAT TEACHERS, BUT MAYBE COSTLY…

IN OTHER COUNTRIES, THEY LOVE NETWORK MARKETING… AND THEY GROW, LOOK AT SINGAPORE, THAILAND AND OTHER COUNTRIES. AND PLEASE, LET THIS BE A LEARNING EXPERIENCE, BUT I HOPE IT WOULDN’T BE A REASON OR EXCUSE TO BAD-MOUTH OTHERS. THERE ARE PEOPLE WORKING IN THIS COMPANY, WITH GOOD INTENTIONS.

FOR THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN BUSINESS, I WOULD LIKE TO REFER YOU TO BOOKS WHICH WILL ENHANCE FURTHER UNDERSTANDING, TRY TO RESEARCH THOSE WHICH ARE HIGHLY RECOMMENDED… THOUGH, THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT STRATEGY, IT’S ALWAYS BEST TO ADD VALUE TO OTHERS…IT’S LIFESTYLE…

BLESSINGS TO US ALL!! (“,)

poli says...

Hey all,

To get a discount on Nu skin products just become a Nu Skin distributor, and you can purchase all the Nu Skin products at wholesale, saving 30%.

Go to nuskin’s website. Choose country. Click “sign up” then “individual” and in the sponsor distributor Id write: IL1138284 – Fill in the form and save up to 30% on all the products.

Usually there’s a $25 fee to become a distributor , but if you make a purchase it’s free – nuskin.com

If you just want to purchase NuSkin wonderful products and not to become a distributor, just use this ID number – IL1138284 – to order.

Enjoy and have a young life,

Ofek

cabanatuan hot says...

do u know marlon ilagan from nu skin manila?

Devin says...

I agree that that is a horrible way of inviting someone to a nuskin seminar but thats not how nuskin tells you to do it. so its not really the pharmanex/nuskin recruitment strategy, but that person’s horrible techniques. one thing you need to realize is that you are not interacting with the company directly and so the techniques of inviting are not the company policy nor is the ganging up to stop you from leaving. the company is solid but the distributors are not. personally if i was invited to something like that like you were id probably tell them to f_ck off.

Lan Tester · says...

marketing jobs can really earn you lots of dollars but most of the time, it is a difficult job “.”

kym says...

@cabanatuan hot – Why? He was our speaker kanina. I just heard about this kanina lang din and didn’t know this company even existed. Anyway, it was a bit entertaining listening to him speak and even made me ambivalent for awhile but maybe this isn’t the right time yet. Soon when I no longer need to ask the PHP12,600 from my parents.

bern says...

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agepoyo says...

I’m just wondering baket andaming chinese na members ng nuskin and most of them are from UP, Delasalle, and Ateneo. Many filipinos are uneducated when it comes to business in my opinion nuskin is a very good business.My family have started several small businesess when i’m growing up i know kung gaano kahirap magsimula ng negosyo and hindi biro ang capital i dont understand how can people get intimidated with 12,600PHP. Using commonsense for some one who grew up in a family doing business this amount is very very small amount of money anu bang magandang negosyo pedeng simulan with 12,600 fish balls? cge kaya ka ba payamanin nun after 5years you cant do business with employee mindset. i’m not saying nuskin is easy or yayaman ka kagad baket sang negosyo ba ganun ala naman business na instant yaman ka my father had already tried more than a dozen businesess for more than 20years and kalahate dun tumiklop my father had lost and earn millions ganun ka harsh ang competition and the world of business it is not a joke. if your educated enough you’ll understand why this is a good business some points why nuskin is a good business very very low capital fast returns wala kang empleyado d ka nagbabayad ng utilities wala kang pwesto or rentang binabayaran and many more. madameng magsasabe me pera ka kase ang yabang mo!pero alam nyo ba mahirap lang date ang tatay ko yun ang pinagkaiba nya sa ibang tao he’s willing to fail and try and try again atsaka tingnan nyu inabot cya 20years b4 cya naging successfull in nuskin you can do it in 5years with very low risk and i’m thinking of joining nuskin after i finish college. Well anyway i dont have anything againts the person who started this blog I’m just here to educate meron din namang good effects ang blog na to because of this blog we are sure that we can only recruit quality people on nuskin why?! because quality and educated people could distinguish the difference between facts and opinions. The world is cruel for ignorant and uneducated people and only the uneducated will say nuskin is a scam bato bato sa langit tamaan uneducated.

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Bobby says...

Going back to the question whether why the members do not give specific details about Nu Skin. Simple. They need to protect you from yourself, especially with bits of information you have received through the years. Having little information can be dangerous, or even losing thousands of pesos, when deciding on something. For example, if they said it was Nu Skin, would you come? Mostly no, probably, your mind says skin care, beauty products, etc. But, you have to understand that it just a tiny part of the iceberg. Nu Skin has innovated to epi-genetics and anti-aging in the US, not just skin care. What if they said it was network marketing, or even MLM? Would you come? Mostly no, probably, your mind says scam, pyramiding, recruiting, etc. But, you have to understand that network marketing is a big business all over the world, provided it is the right company. All businesses in the world have recruitment units. What if they said it was sales and marketing? Would you come? Mostly no, probably, your mind says I am not a seller or marketer. But, you have to understand that Nu Skin business is not just about selling and marketing. The business makes you a leader and teacher at the same time. Lastly, do you think the caller can tell everything I have written here? Of course not. That is why they are ready to help you to provide the information you need to make a decision. They want you to reach your goals in life, whatever it may be.

But, then again, it is between your mind and yourself. It is your choice at the end of the day. The caller will respect your choice, anyways.

receivedacall says...

received a call about 10mins ago from a guy named Jed Roa. he told me nga na i was going to be interviewed on tuesday, and made me choose sa oras (3pm or 6pm). same lines were told, that there were 2-3 slots na lang and they are looking for people with healthcare background. after our conversation, i’ve decide to google the company (hindi p nga nia ssbhin un company name if i hadn’t ask). ganto lang pala. parang pyramiding din. he almost fooled me. my hopes were up, kasi akala ko i’ve actually landed an interview na. tssssss.

anonymous says...

Nu skin pharmanex is a very good company, sobrang ganda din ng mga products. mula sa skin care hanggang sa health care. Talagang beauty in and out. I have been part of this company. kaso sa isang bagay ako nalinlang. Kala ko iba xa sa ibang MLM. ang sabi kasi ng sponsors namin, may personal mentor ka who will help you every step of the way. 200% pa nga eh. pero habang hindi ka pa nakakapag fast track yun ang pangako nila. fast track meaning bibili ka pa ng products or kits worth 37thou or 77thou depende sa choice mo. once na nakapag fast track ka na, bahala ka na sa buhay mo.. sasabihin sau kapag you are asking for help or info..”business mo yan eh, dapat alam mo yan.” may mga groups na tutulungan ka talaga..pero panu na lang kapag napunta ka sa tulad ng mga naging ka-grupo ko?…I will still continue using the products.i will do retailing din. pero yung pagiging part ng group? ibang usapan na. I just hope na talagang umasenso yung mga kagroup ko sa ganyang tactics nila.

kuting says...

im sorry for your misleading experience. nu skin is a very good company and their products are good though expensive. but like my experience, i was misled by some groups/people who try to use such misleading tactics to gain referrals. so im sorry he got you fooled. and i wish you the bes tin getting a good job you deserve

kuting says...

i understand your argument but still there are other ways to get someone to go to the presentation that are honest and better. misleading people by telling them its for an interview for a position or job they are familiar with or are hoping to get then later finding out its for a product presentation is really a mean way to do it and fool people. it may work for some, but for most people, its like an insult. like for me, as i’ve said even if i liked the nu skin presentation and decided to go for it, i wouldn’t join under the person who fooled me. coz i don’t want to start a business or any kind of relationship with someone who started everythign with a lie and by fooling me.

kuting says...

i agree with you, nuskin is a good business and i’ve said that several times. i like their products as well coz its good and effective kahit medyo mahal.

as the blogger who posted this article you replied to, i am not really saying nu skin is a scam coz its not. if you read my article carefully, i mostly complained about a member who tried to fool me in joining nu skin. too bad for her, familiar na ako sa nu skin and nakagamit na ako ng produkto nila and madami akong kakilala na member ng nu skin. ang ikinagalit ko lang is yung pano nya ko niloko dahil nagsinungaling sya na ininvite nya ako for a job interview for a position i know and wanted but then nu skin lang pala. so nakakairita talaga dahil nagsinungaling sya. and based sa experience ng iba na nagpsot rin dito at sa iba pang blogs, marami ring ibang myembro na ganun nagsisinungaling para lang makapagrecruit.

pero its really up to a person if he/she would join nu skin and would join under the person who lied to him/her. di mo kelangan magiging edukado to be successful in nu skin or any marketing company. kelangan lang common sense at tyaga at sipag.

gg says...

I am not an active member of nuskin/pharmanex. I am only an avid user. what i think is that, YOU DON’T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE INDUSTRY or any business concepts for that matter. Kiyosaki or Trump wouldn’t endorse this industry if they aren’t good. Pharmanex/Nuskin are one of the industries i know which practices the best ethics in network marketing, although not perfect sometimes. IF YOU AREN’T SURE OF ONE THING, don’t conclude.

kuting says...

@gg if you’re addressing your comment to me, i suggest you read my whole article again and my comments as well. i understand the industry. i’ve been a user of nu skin. i have friends who sue it and works for nu skin. and i also understand the networking/marketing industry since grew up with friends and relatives and family around those. my article is solely discussing about the misleading tactics of some people who are promoting nu skin and not about nu skin or its products or any other company within the same industry. so read again my friend before you comment like that

CHRISTINE says...

funny for those people na sobrang magreact s NU SKIN. besides, wala namang nawala sa inyo, the company just opened an oppurtunity for everyone to have a good life. NU SKIN is a legal and stable INSTITUTION. you guys should be wise enough to search sa mga credible sites. if you dont want it then dont if you are open then good for you.TAPOS. NU SKIN is not a company that will convince you to join because they are looking for quality people who can be part of the team in the health and wellness industry.GODBLESS

ocean says...

To SOME people,

Comments are comments. But no matter how you put it, It still is something that shouldn’t be disregarded . Be careful of the words you choose. Don’t abuse your freedom to express. Words can kill. People vary. It’s the CHARACTER that sets us apart from each other. Though there are no right and wrong answers by opinion YOU can choose to be the BETTER or the WORSE version of yourself. I hope those SOME can get over themselves. SAD TRUTH.

waste of time says...

They are still at it. Its such a scam misrepresenting for a professional recruiting firm. Llora Chan and Jonathan Lugay were the folks who tried to get me attend. Fooled to go but not stupid enough to stay. They said llora was from Globe and Jonathan is from ADB. Wow! I wonder how they are doing at the mailroom. They sent me to this website http://www.onekaizen.com thinking it was a legit headhunting firm, I showed up for the appointment. Geez! I pity the folks that get scammed into attending this seminar. Such a waste of time. There is no shortcut to careers and success. If they don’t stop this BS of a career, they will spend their professional life making coffee for the person that didn’t waste time in such stupid get rich quick scams.

beenthere says...

I had the same experience.Fresh grad ako and looking for a job.and i got a call.same din yung sinabi niya(ang worst lang hindi ko natanong kung paano nakuha number ko).When i ask kung anong company yun she said AGELOC.naggoogle ako and existing naman siya so i decided to just try it.Medyo nagduda lang ako when i went in their office in ORTIGAS, ang daming tao as in.Yung talk nila about dun sa company is medyo unbelievable and most ng nagdiscuss dun is a graduate from UP,La Salle and Ateneo.Yung sa presentation nila may 12600 na nakalagay but he didnt elabarote it.May RUBY,DIAMOND,BLUE DIAMOND etc. pa sila, if I’m not mistaken it corresponds to the people you brought into the company and the money you can get.I’m just sharing what I experienced.Im not even sure kung scam sila or what bec. I didnt pursue the job but the fact na naghihingi sila ng money is quite alraming.so dapat talaga MAG-INGAT,its either ikaw yung mautakan nila o mautakan mu sila,its the reality. So be Ingat ingat tayo.

evhamyoka says...

Hi there, such a long comment thread ha? few years ago since started.

I think people don’t understand each other here.

What few ones want to imply is that, it’s the practice of recruiting that’s not legit and not the business itself.

I was called a month ago by a girl in the name of Leila. She invited me for a job opportunity like some SEO’s or something like that. She told me that their office is in the 15th Floor of Octagon Bldg. I have a job (until now I’m here) here in PSEC… Kung tutuusin, tatawid lang ako. I was almost hooked by the offer but then I got confused when I asked her where did she get my number and she answered “I’ll tell you na lang during the interview.” I said, “okay”. We agreed to meet that Saturday and I was still wondering about the company. That morning, (since my sched was in the afternoon), I texted the girl and asked for the company’s name. I made my decision not to come when she said “I can’t tell you right away because it’s CONFIDENTIAL”.

Why did it have to be confidential? What are they, a syndicate?

So I googled what company must be occupying the said floor in Octagon. I was shocked with all the rants I read. I was saddened.

When I didn’t appear, the girl texted me, that I must not “commit to an appointment if I’m not sure I can make it”. I replied “Sorry, I can’t be fooled.”

kuting says...

yup, started my post years ago and still gets comments from all sides and of course comments from people frustrated by the same recruiting practice of some members of NU SKIN that i was sharing about on my post.

its sad to know that there’s still members who do it. I guess it works and they do get people to actually sign up and hopefully they succeeded with NU SKIN. I wish them all the best. However, as always, not all people will be happy especially those ones who aren’t or won’t be interested with NU SKIN and were given false hope of getting a job they wanted and not a networking job. And many will be frustrated as well to be provided with false company names and job openings and realize later on they were fooled and their time were wasted.

Again, as a disclaimer, to anyone pro-NU SKIN that might be reading this comment i have and havent read my actual blog post, i don’t have anything against NU SKIN. they’re a great company and most members are great as well and as i’ve said i’ve got several friends who are members. My frustration is only all about the false recruitment practice done my some members which have upset me and a lot of other people as well as you can read their rants on this thread and from other blogs as well.

bugan says...

..am also a victim of their strategy, i thought it was really something wen they called me, to end up kowing na ganun lng pala…haissssttt

jb says...

may tumawag sakin last night.. sabi pumunta daw ako dun sa octagon building this afternoon para daw sa project nila ang company nga pharmanex.. sinabi niya kasi yung school ko at alam niya yung name ko hindi ko alam kung san niya nakuha yung number ko..scam kaya yun?

auroradulce toledo says...

Hi, thanks for sharing your experience.. actually we have same experience on Pharmanex and Nuskin.. actually gnun na ganun din cnavi nia skin…. then nung cnavi n nia yung place OCTAGON tower… tnaning ko kung anu name ng company ksi ive been there before for Nuskin ay super nkakabwisit.. he said pharmanex… so i searched the google iisa lng pala yun… nkakaasar.. hndi nia talaga skin cnvi na iisa yun buti na lng d ako pumunta then I’ve been wiser na ksi inalam ko muna yung Pharmanex n yan… thanks to you.. u helped me alot… bago ako mgsayang ng panahon dyan ^^

KIng says...

Gawd!!!!! Thank you for this article. Now I know what to do.

I got a call from a girl named Mitzi (I think ) and she invited for a job interview. I am currently working in sales, and love every minute of it. She asked me if I’d be ineterested to join a business opportunity. When I asked her where did she get my number, she told me that she got it from a special source. I was scheduled for an interview this Friday, since its on Alabang, hindi naman hassle sa akin dahil malapit lang sa work ko talaga.

I hate MLM. I was a victim if this scam. I had invested 20,000 sa isang MLM, but then nagalisan lahat ng uppers namin and then off they go with our money. So now that I know that this indeed is an MLM strategy, I wont be attending the appointment on Friday na.

Thank you talaga. Thank you!!!!

ANON says...

If a call from an anonymous caller not giving complete details about the “business opportunity” will ask for an appointment, then say pass… from octagon building, nuskin is residing now in ODC building… still using the same tactic “we have a job for you, no commitments, i-can’t-email-you-info-about-our-company-its-confidential”…i got myself lured in the presentation but skipped it because it’s way toooo long. Sometimes the caller will not mention “NUSKIN-pharmanex” but “LIFEGEN TECH”….avoid this call like plague…

ANON says...

thanks for reading my post…you will save P12,600 in the process

frustrated says...

tanx sa mga nag post ng experience nila… buti n lang at nasearch ko tong site na before i proceed for the said Interview na ung Pala e marketing Strategy nila,,, Cmula p lan nag hesitate na ako kc bigla n lang my anonymous caller at alam nila bsic information ko like name, school nd cellphone number and the said interview is around of 6:30 in the evening.. anu klase ng interview.. gabi! buti n lang my mga mrurunong na gumawa ng site na to,, salamat tlaga at one out of 5 ako sa nakaligtas sa strategy nila…
sa mga nag POST,, Tanx!
sa Admin ng site na to,, TANX TANX!

Jayu says...

A similar scheme posted in NBI, found guilty in Australia. Same business model, same bullcrap.

http://www.nbi.gov.ph/news/tvi_express.html

Natsu Dragneel says...

Wow I like the way Kuting made this blog this very professional and unbiased good job hehehee ^_^

@Jayu Not trying to make enemies here or anything but i would have to disagree with what Jayu posted. Reading the site that Jayu posted that company was only making money through recruiting. The money from network marketing must also come from sales thus the word “MARKETING”

I myself have been invited to NuSkin saying that they have a business project for me and that they were NSP International company. I have to admit It was pretty suspicious on how they got my no. so i asked my dad to come along. (you never know if you might get kidnapped hehe ^_^)

I saw the presentation half way through and i started to get hints that this was networking(MLM) I instantly thought of the word “SCAM!!!!” but decided that I would see what made people think that this was a scam(I am not a college graduate for nothing). It is a good business model kinda like franchise but with people and smaller capital of 12,600Php for products that you will use yourself. I decided not to join because I already have my own business to take care of.(I still buy their body scrub though best thing i ever bought hehehehe ^_^)

For people who thinks Networking is a scam you guys must have had some bad experience in the industry to think like that and I blame the MLM that gets money only from recruiting and closes before you know it.

Also for those distributors who trick people by saying you have a job opportunity when your just trying to invite them in you MLM you should really change your ways before you destroy your reputation as well as the company’s.

Open minded person says...

Im amazed and quite pussled about why so few of you has noticed this. The published text above is not about the company Nuskin nor Pharmanex, and not even the products or the fact that It’s a Network Marketing and a direct selling company. The text above is about two people communicating unsuccessfully, by that I mean the writer, of the text above, feels cheated by the person who called her and not by the company itself.
The writer has former experince of Network Marketing and seems to think that she knows how it works. Anyone that has worked with a succesfull network marketing company for a longer time before, or is still working with one, will notice this.

The advise I give anyone who is thinking about joining a network marketing company is and will always be: look for, listen, and follow the facts and not the stories. Facts are truth, and stories are made up. What would you believe?

There are hundreds of people out there that are angry at some company because they need someone else to blame but themselves for being unsuccessfull in the field. Every failure, every bad choice, every bad relationship and of course everything good in your life is all about what you decided to do and then acting on it.

If you look at the facts, but don’t take my word for it ( or the writer to the text on the top of this page), Nuskin/Pharmanex is together one of the purest companies out there. Look at the facts and digg deep as I have, and you will see what I mean. That goes for every other company you are thinking of joining. You don’t want to stand there with the wrong partner when it realy counts.

All the best to you all/

M

meHERE! says...

sad to say i was a victim…until now can’t pay my mom dun sa inutang ko just to be part of that “company”…that time don’t have any and i felt depressed kasi wala kang work then nabaon ka pa sa utang…75k is not a joke diba?i plan and still planning my own business but not this kind, good to say im working now and feel better…thou still have 2sets of galvanic spa and don’t know where and who i can sell it…worth 40k…

daRCy says...

I haven’t bought any of their products and probably NEVER will, thanks to the AWESOME internet and the wonderful people who have made it possible for me.

I warned the contacts I gave them, through Facebook, so that my conscience will be clear. It should have tipped me off from the start, I did ask my mom to google it for me while I was waiting for the “seminar” — but I was too curious for my own good. The guy that I talked to in Nu Skin actually scheduled a 2nd meeting and I sort of agreed, but I’m resourceful enough to look into testimonials online. The fact that I was TRICKED into GOING to meet him during the week where I have a gazillion things to do pissed me off the most.

So in revenge, I’m going to NOT go to our meeting and leave the asshole hanging. I hope I waste his time the way he wasted mine. I was interested, because no one ever mentioned the words directly to me. “WE WANT YOU TO SELL OUR EXPENSIVE ASS PRODUCTS.” or “WE WANT YOU TO RECRUIT PEOPLE INTO OUR SHIT”. They could have been honest from the phone call and I would have just said NO THANKS I HATE MLM SCHEMES. Is it really that hard to explain?

Either way, kawawa lang ang mga tao na napasok sa scam na yan. Being lied to is the worst thing. How can you feed your children with the money that came from cheating or tricking other people? How can you live with yourself? It’s no better than blood money.

switzal says...

A woman named cel celedenio who is working in UCPB ortigas as she said when I finally met her, also called me many times. And finally I give her in and visit the Trafalgar Makati. i thought the company was an HR related agency serving an offshore office jobs by part time or full time. So i brought with me my resume. If she said that it was a dealership or distributorship of NUSKIN products, it might not mislead my understanding of the company. She also said that she is working in onekaizen.com a multinational company. The website of onekaizen, their product is to train the leaders and professionals. i thought that training is for offshore office support. Why not direct to the point that we are looking for qualified and interested people with passion in direct selling or marketing of NU Skin product?

Be fair in your recruitment ways. Be honest and explain so that your business relationship will start in good relationship without second thought. Others who are making the honest way of recruitment will be dragged by your dishonesty.

blessed01 says...

sad to say, kakagaling ko lang dun at sa sobbrang curious ko nga about sa NUSKIN.. kaya eto nagsearch ako at salamat nmn at nakita ko tong page na to.. ty

Iya says...

http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/nus.html